Gender and Japan: Lady San-shi-ro Yamaguchi Kaori speaks frankly 03

This is a translation of an interview published on August 29th, 2016. “Sataka Makoto no Hitori Ichiwa.”  LINK

When asked, "Mrs. Yamaguchi, did you receive strict spartan like training?" She responded, "No, we were stronger. When reflecting with my teammates, 'If it were to have happened to us we wouldn't just quietly get hit, we probably would have hit back.' Those guys tend to avoid being face to face with people like that, which irritates me even more. Since the current Women's Judo Athletes grew up in a time where things were more fortunate, they've been coddled while riding on the same tracks as the male athletes. That's why even while they might think of things as being strange, they had to just take it." She continued. 

Regardless of the time Yamagishi Emi beat Tani Ryoko in the championships of the trials, Tani was chosen as the representative for the Beijing Olympics. Previously, Tani lost to a pupil of Yamaguchi, Fukumi Tomoko, in the world team trials yet Tani was still chosen as the world team member. At that time, Yamaguchi almost took it up with the CAS (Sports court of arbitration). When she didn't follow through with her, she apologized to Fukumi. 

"I had yet to apologize to a pupil of mine, but that was the one single time I had apologized. For things to be overturned and decided based on the circumstances of adults was an apology worth giving."

Because Fukumi's livelihood and future would rely on the Judo community, I chose not to  follow through with the lawsuit.

"I have a high regard for Tani and I understand the significance of her stepping forward. But even more so to think about what is to come. It might not have been the beautiful ending she desired, but I wish it was considered. It's not her wrong doing, but the wrong doing of the people around her."

Yamaguchi raises her voice. 

"I'm sure there are plenty of people who think things shouldn't be talked about. The trend not to speak up and say something, are what leads to dictatorships and wars. When considering that, we realize its a crime not to say anything."

According to Yamaguchi's "Issues of Japan Judo" (Isuto Shinsho) after Yamaguchi retired from competition, she was sent abroad by the Japan Olympic committee to England for a year, as a step to becoming an instructor. Upon her return she was labeled osozaki no furyo (late blooming gangster) after staying out late to drink, party, and dye her hair. In Japan there are phrases like Chinmoku no kin (Silence is gold) and  Yamato Nadeshiko (the flower of Japanese womanhood), for Yamaguchi, she would like it to always be a gangster in the good sense.
佐高 信 [評論家]
【第53回】 2016年8月29日

「山口さん自身はスパルタでやられてきたんですか」と尋ねると、「いえ、私たちの方が強かったですね。同期の子たちと話すと、『私たちだったら黙って殴られていないで殴り返していたよね』と言っています。そして、彼らはそういう人には面と向かっては来ないんですよね。それが余計に腹が立つんです。今の女子柔道選手は恵まれてきた時代に育ってきたので、レールに乗ってきた男子の選手たちと同じく純粋培養なんです。だから、何か変だと思いながらも受け入れざるを得なかったんでしょうね」と続けた。

谷亮子が山岸絵美に選考会を兼ねた全日本選抜の決勝で敗れたにもかかわらず、北京オリンピックの代表に選ばれたことがあった。谷はその前に、山口の教え子の福見友子に全日本選抜で敗れたのに世界選手権の代表になった。この時、山口はCAS(スポーツ仲裁裁判所)に提訴しようかとまで考えたが、思いとどまり、福見に謝った。

「私は未だかつて、教え子に謝ったことはなかったんですけど、あの時だけは謝りましたね。大人の都合によって決定が覆されたということは本当に申し訳なかったです」

提訴しなかったのは、福見がこれからもこの日本の柔道界で生きていかなければならないからである。

「谷のことを、私は高く評価しているし、彼女が出てきた意義は感じています。だからこそ、これからを考えてほしかった。有終の美ではないけれど、考えてほしかった。それは彼女が悪いのではなくて、周りが悪いんです」

そして、山口は声を高くする。

「発言しちゃいけないのかなと思っている方はたくさんいると思います。モノを言わない流れが、そのことが戦争になってしまったり、独裁者をつくったりします。そう考えると、発言しないことは罪なんです」

山口の『日本柔道の論点』(イースト新書)によれば、山口は引退後、指導者になる過程で、日本オリンピック委員会に派遣されて1年間イギリスに行ったという。そこで遅くまで酒を飲んだり、それまでできなかった遊びをしたり、髪を染めたりしたら、帰って来て、「遅咲きの不良」と言われたらしい。日本では“沈黙は金”とか、ヤマトナデシコなどという言葉もあるが、山口には、いつまでも、いい意味の不良であってほしい。

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  1. Jamie Gomez says:

    I am thankful for the brave women who had followed their dreams, regardless of what anyone would say. Females are more accepted in combat sports in this day and age, and I am thankful for that. Women who are in martial arts may already feel different from the rest of the world, so it is refreshing to be accepted and encouraged in combat sports. I appreciate everyone (and they are generally men in class) who takes the time to roll with me, and teach me technique, no matter how much smaller I am compared to them.

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